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Post by Lodemai on Jan 29, 2004 16:50:38 GMT 10
How do you know when its love or lust or just plain desire?
Wanting something or someone that you can never have makes it even more desirable.
What makes some one so desirous of someone else?
You can fall in love with someone you do not know, lust after those that seem to be everything you want..
You can desire someone who isnt even real, such as a charater from a movie, book or even an animated cartoon.
Why?
What are your thoughts on this subject?
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Post by † Lestat † on Jan 30, 2004 12:51:31 GMT 10
personally I figure that humans are sexual creatures that need to be loved or feel love.. I think that its nice to have a relationship with someone but why does it have to be a monogynous relationship because you can feel differently about more than one person.. I love the feeling of desire and I believe that I am a good lover, I am drawn to the look of both men and women .. Of course that doesnt mean I would have a sexual relationship with a man.. it doesnt mean that I am gay or bi-sexual just because I can find a guy sensual to look at..  |
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Post by Minara on Feb 1, 2004 8:10:58 GMT 10
personally I figure that humans are sexual creatures that need to be loved or feel love.. I think that its nice to have a relationship with someone but why does it have to be a monogynous relationship because you can feel differently about more than one person.. I love the feeling of desire and I believe that I am a good lover, I am drawn to the look of both men and women .. Of course that doesnt mean I would have a sexual relationship with a man.. it doesnt mean that I am gay or bi-sexual just because I can find a guy sensual to look at.. I agree with you Lestat. I have many good female friends who I think are beautiful. I admit, I check them out, but I don't think that I would ever act upon those thoughts. The subject of love vs. lust is a touchy one. It's sometimes hard to distinguish the difference between the two because the line is so fine. I have to say I have been in lust with at least one person at a time, and in love with two people at the same time. It's very confusing trying to sort out which emotions fall into what category, but it takes a lot of thought to determine which is love and which is lust. I agree that the idea of loving someone and not being able to have them makes them even more desirable. Many people idolize movie stars, but they can never have them, chances are they would never even meet them. I feel that that is lust, because it's a sexual attraction. Love stems from actually knowing someone well enough to feel pure, heartfelt emotions. Merrick |
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Post by ”¨@ˆÄŽRŽq on Feb 2, 2004 17:29:32 GMT 10
How do you know when its love or lust or just plain desire? Wanting something or someone that you can never have makes it even more desirable. What makes some one so desirous of someone else? You can fall in love with someone you do not know, lust after those that seem to be everything you want.. You can desire someone who isnt even real, such as a charater from a movie, book or even an animated cartoon. Why? What are your thoughts on this subject? hmm....well I guess I mostly and start to desire people that are not real, like animated charactes for example. I blame my friend for getting me back into anime. Its so funny...I have a friend, we aren't really going out, just talking and whatnot, yet at the same time I like him, because he is interesting. Even though we live far away. I now find out that he is jealous, because I "desire" anime men so much I wish they were real and could just take me away. I dont' know why I desire animated men, but they are just simply beautiful to me, gee I'm a girl here *laughs* for me I just wonder off into my "own" world. I'm not really like other girls, I'm quiet most of the time if I'm not talking or not doing anything basically. *shrugs* though I do have desires, etc, etc. like this *points to what she wrote* I just like animated men, I think they are perfect because they are drawn and move around when you see them on the tv or in a movie. *laughs* |
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Post by Louis on Feb 5, 2004 12:32:55 GMT 10
I think why people desire anime characters or book / movie characters is because even though they are not real they can seem like the perfect person...
They have personality traits that you find appealing and they can be everything you want in a partner...
I think that is the same way that you can fall in love with someone that you dont know or have never talked to... because they can be what you want them to be and you normally only ever see the good side of them which makes loving or desiring them so much easier...
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Post by ”¨@ˆÄŽRŽq on Feb 10, 2004 9:24:51 GMT 10
*smiles*
thank you louis, that is what I mean, yet its sometimes hard for me to put them in word, you did it perfectly. well done.
*bows*
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Post by Minara on Feb 10, 2004 10:40:08 GMT 10
Louis speaks from experience, my dear Charlotte.
But he put it eloquently.
Selene
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Post by ”¨@ˆÄŽRŽq on Feb 12, 2004 17:04:35 GMT 10
ah I see. I guess sometimes I'm a bit slow minded. Then again I wouldn't mind being educated from a well understand perfectly experienced vampire *winks* |
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Post by Petronia on Feb 14, 2004 16:03:43 GMT 10
There are four things that one person can say to another: "I want you"; "I need you"; "I like you"; and "I love you."
If one wants another only for some self-satisfaction, usually in the form of sensual pleasure, that takes the form of lust rather than love.
If one needs another for some selfish purpose, such as needing that person to make us feel complete or for acquiring wealth, that is desire rather than love.
Only when loving another is rooted in liking or admiring that other -- and when our liking of what we find good in that person impels us to do what we can to benefit him or her -- is it correct to say that we love that person.
We can, of course, like persons that we do not love; but we still say that we love that person as we think of it as a different type of love.
Yet real love is selfless...there is some impulse to give pleasure to the persons thus loved and not merely to use them for our own selfish pleasure.
We like others for the virtues in them that we admire; and because we admire or like them, we love them in the sense of wishing to act for their good and to enhance it by whatever benefits we can confer upon them.
Basically real true love is selfless, you would die for the one you love, you would give up everything for that one to be happy even if it means that you are not.
To hold on to someone, to try and control how they feel, act or what they say is not real love.
If you get angry because they are happy or because they say something you dont want to hear that is not real love.
If you have real love then both of you will try as hard as possible to do what is right for the other one so there is hardly ever any anger or sadness involved in real true love.
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Post by ”¨@ˆÄŽRŽq on Feb 18, 2004 15:08:02 GMT 10
ahhhhhhh *grins* thanks petronia, *winks* truly I'm inspired by you *awes with delight*  |
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Post by Tsul on Mar 3, 2004 21:37:22 GMT 10
A friend once said to me that you nkow it's loev and not lustwhen you would still be willing to love that person and care for them if you could never touch them or look at them. I'm still going through the whole "figuring out what real love is" thing and look forward to finding someone someday.
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Post by Anna on Mar 20, 2004 9:40:24 GMT 10
i believe love lust and desire originated from the same energies then split up into different ideas of what people thought love was
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Post by Minara on Dec 3, 2004 12:22:01 GMT 10
I have been thinking about this for a couple of minutes.
I think love and lust are interconnected, whether people want them to be or not.
You can love someone's personality, their soul, their demeanor and be content to just be with them.
The difference between love and lust is that lust is based on a primal emotion, a primitive instinct. All species mate due to how their mate looks (robins have red chests to attract females, peacocks have beautiful feathers to attract each other, etc). If you're a chick and this really hot guy gets you going, it's an instinctual thing.
HOWEVER, some people think they love someone becaues they love how that person feels lying next to them, inside them, around them, etc....sex feels good and it can be misleading.
I don;t know how much sense that made but I think you will catch my drift.
Min
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Post by Louis on Dec 30, 2004 23:23:25 GMT 10
I think that its very easy to mistake lust for love and even to mistake desire for love.
It is so easy to fall in love but its so hard to find real love, love that is lasting, love that makes you happy at least 98% of the time.
I believe that everyone has a true soul mate out there somewhere who matches up with you 99 - 100%, of course there are other degrees of matches such as 80% ... 75% ... 60% even 50% and some people are willing to settle for what ever they can get, rather than look for something better, either because they feel that there is no one better or because they are just too scared to take the risk...
The happier you are with your partner the high up your match is, so people with a 60% match might not be as loving and happy together as a couple with a 70% match..
Of course the only way for you to know sometimes is to spend a few years together and see how things go because after a couple of years you lose that just in love, romantic, new love, happiness as you become more used to each other and you get to see the real person..
If someone isnt happy with the person they are with then they really should try to find someone else who is a better love match..
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Post by Minara on Feb 12, 2005 22:58:25 GMT 10
I am starting to feel that my belief in love was misplaced.
I have gone through so much shit for the cause of love over the last couple years that I sort of feel like it can't really exist. Why would something that is supposed to be so beautiful, something that is supposed to be pure and wonderful and eternal, hurt so much? Love destroys lives just as much as hate does.
I don't believe there is one person alone for everyone the planet. I believe that there are just too many people on this earth to have only 1 be the right 'match' (to coin Louis' phrase).
*shrug* Sorry, I'm tired and cranky =P
Min
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